twincharging estimated results
ok, so, if you have a twincharge set up on a chevy small block 400 cu. in motor, turbo feeding roots blower... roots by itself at 4000 rpm produces 6lbs boost...turbo by itself at 4000 rpm produces 15 lbs boost..what happens when we put them in series...turbo feeding roots at 4000 rpm ..what approximate boost will be get?...i'll know soon enough i'm building an engine..but would like some theoretical input.
You will get more total boost than just adding the two pressures. The reason being that the pressure ratios multiply, not add.
So
if your turbo has a pressure ratio of 2.0 (14.7 psi boost), and your
supercharger has a pressure ratio of 1.4 (5.9 psi boost) you get a total
combined pressure ratio of 2.8 which is 26.5 psi, not 14.7 + 5.9 = 20.6
psi.
So expect to see 14.7 out of the turbo, and 26.5psi out of
the supercharger. The supercharger will work A LOT HARDER with much
denser air being forced into into it.
The best way to handle this
is to just run your wastegate sensing line off the total combined
boost, and select a wastegate spring for whatever total boost you
finally decide to run. Boost will quickly rise to that pressure and stay
there over a very wide Rpm range.
If your exhaust housing
originally produced full boost at 4,000 Rpm with just the turbo, expect
full boost at more like 2,000 Rpm with twincharging. I am not
kidding. You will definitely require a larger a/r exhaust housing, but
try it first and see.
The whole thing will be far more responsive
and have a much lower turbo boost threshold than you are probably
expecting. But the top end power will still be there.
With boost
pressure substantially higher than total exhaust back pressure, over a
very wide Rpm range, it is going make some real horsepower, as well as
having massive low end grunt.
But this has a couple of things going for it. The supercharger pressure
ratio is reasonably low at only 1.4, and if some fairly efficient
intercooling is employed after the turbo, the temperature at the
supercharger intake need not be very far above ambient.
The
detonation problem that often plagues high boost turbo engines is
usually more often due to intake charge heating by trapped exhaust
residuals. The unavoidable high turbine back pressure, traps a lot of
heat, especially where there is a low compression ratio.
With
supercharging, or twincharging it is extremely easy to keep boost
pressure well above total exhaust back pressure, and with sufficient
valve(Reducing Valves) overlap, the heat can escape due to much more efficient positive
scavenging. With EFI, the injection point can be delayed until the
exhaust valve has closed if a good fuel specific is required.
So the engine is going to have a far higher detonation threshold than can be had with a turbo.
High
induction temperatures are never good, but at least with supercharging
or twincharging, detonation should be far easier to avoid with some
suitable (but not excessive) valve overlap.